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Welcome to Between The Stools on 26th November 2023. This is part II of Walking Into Your Destiny. (Part I was last week). I felt the need to link the Tudor changeover of 17th (Mary to Elizabeth) with the 60 year anniversary of John F Kennedy’s death on 22nd – the only time in our History Year that we’ve left the continent of Europe and come into living memory. In January, on the cusp of the History Year (which runs until next January) we thought of Elvis; we also spent two services of 2022 with Diana and Lennon. I see these as connected with today’s focus.
I set up the theme of destiny in our September service, although it’s been tacitly there all along. With today’s subject, we might see destiny in two ways: his presidency and his violent end. In contrast, Elizabeth I of England took the baton from her ill sister to reign for 45 years that are known as glorious; she lived to 70, which was considered then a long life, and she died of natural causes – unlike nearly all Kennedys since the middle of the last century. Yet there is not such a leap from 1558 to 1958. In both, there is dynasty building, empire building, an attempts at world domination, establishing a new era, at vanquishing an equal but opposite rival, and a fearful rhetoric to gain support for its brutal suppression. I’d like to think there’s a 3rd way of destiny.
“Of course I’ve heard of JFK. When was he on the throne again?”
This is a true quote, apparently said in innocence (although I suspect razor sharp concealed wit) from a British co-worker a few years back. I actually think that, whether the joke was on her colleagues or accidental, there is insight here. America does have a throne – on a four year basis with a much publicized contest, a game of thrones. This particular throne holder was especially given the royal treatment, before and after his death. Did he want more thrones under his, to be a high king? As I’ve written this, my focus and opinion has changed. Jack Kennedy has been oft rendered a godlike status – he even has a mountain named for him! – but this will not be a hagiography. Nor will it be primarily a biography – analyses of rifle trajectories and head wounds will not form a part of this service: as ever, I’m seeking spiritual insight. To my US audience, I want to warn that I may critique things that you hold dear. Please know that I do so with love and respect for you as individuals, especially those I know personally as spiritual brothers and sisters. And I’ve been as willing to critique my own country and its tenets and golden geese.
So with those caveats, let us begin….
with a few moments of silence and a prayer
Part I
This sermon was read with a 1960s pillbox hat, such as Jackie Kennedy was wearing 60 years ago
It occurs to me that true facts are rare. Quiz answers are usually a single word or name, but they can reflect the quizmaster’s beliefs and understanding as much as any real, uncontested truth. That is so for the story of JFK.
Yes, F stags for Fitzgerald; John was born on 29th May 1917; he was the second of nine children; his father Joseph, who served as the American ambassador in Britain, was from an Irish immigrant Catholic family; they initially lived in Brookline, outside Boston; his mother Rosemary lived to 104; his four brothers all ran for president; John was enrolled at the London School of Economics… then ill health soon terminated John’s studies. After another brief enrolment, Jack eventually went to Harvard and into the navy in the war. It seems that Jack’s time in England was significant and he published his first book – or rather, his father did for him – called “Why England Slept” which was his honours thesis on WWII and appeasement. It naturally did well because of the promotion and standing of the author’s millionaire father.
Yes, his wife was Jacqueline Bouvier, who later married Aristotle Onassis. Jack and Jackie had two children, John and Caroline (more died at birth). JFK was elected president in 1960, serving from the next year. He did not live to see the end of his four year term. The phrase ‘Bay of Pigs’ will occur in a quiz, but what he was responsible for and what to call that Cuban military event (was it a fiasco?) is not without contention. Nor are his policies. I wonder how well known NMAS 263 is. I bet you wouldn’t be asked to name Executive Order 11110 (it’s not in Wikipedia). I discovered it on 11.11 this year. I will come back to these, as they may be key to what happened on 22.11.
Note that his day of death is twice that of the month of his death.
A general knowledge question might ask who killed JFK. The standard answer is LHO – Lee Harvey Oswald. I would substitute other initials.
As I’ve said before, I don’t believe that any death of a celebrity by a lone gunman is ever the truth. I state this of Jill Dando, John Lennon, Gandhi, Martin Luther King. I wonder if suicides and sudden accidents or fast track terminal illnesses really were the cause of the demise of many others, and in that I include Princess Diana, Michael Jackson and Marilyn Monroe. Whenever someone dies after speaking out – Ulrich Mühe, who had a career of acting in films that challenged political narratives, such as The Lives of Others; Stieg Larsson, author of the Millennium trilogy (The Girl Who/With…) – I felt, as others clearly state, including the partner of the latter, that this was assassination. Like the others I’ve just mentioned, there was a reason to kill not just one Kennedy, and I think it’s important to see such incidents as a group.
All the above were set to expose or transpose the establishment.
(Jill Dando was a British TV presenter about to reveal the abuse of BBC children’s presenter Jimmy Saville; Stieg had a similar reveal on Swedish authorities)
Note how fast JFK was buried: 3 days later. Bear in mind that he died on a Friday. (Hence the 60th anniversary was yesterday, 25th Nov)
Like Anne Boleyn, he’d been in office 1000 days (1036 to be precise)
How many Kennedys have died in violent or suspicious circs? Arguably up to 14, the last being in 2020, if you add the cruel psychiatric treatment of John’s eldest sister Rose Marie – put away by her father against her will and knowledge, and not found by her siblings for decades.
I believe(d) that the Kennedys had and have important work to do. It is why I chose them today.
Simone Simons begins her memoir of Diana with a scoop. It was a tawdry attempt at attention grabbing – the shocker with her late father in law and the threats she received was of far more interest and moment. But I believe(d) that Diana’s brief dalliance with JFK’s son connected those families and their analogous missions, just as she was likened to Marilyn Monroe (with whom she shared a eulogy in song by Elton John – Candle In the Wind) who was Jack’s longterm lover. John Jnr died in an aircraft incident two years after Diana.
I think – or hoped – that Jack Kennedy was to do in the US what Diana had begun in the UK. Both had the potential to reach far wider than their own countries.
I saw this mission as more than that explicitly stated in JFK’s inaugural speech, which closed: “All this will not be finished in the first one hundred days. Nor will it be finished in the first one thousand days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin.”
It was studying that speech that began to make me turn my opinion.
Note how often he speaks of pledges. Is this repeated ‘we’ the American people, ‘his’ administration, or is JFK using the royal we?! He rarely uses ‘I’.
That famed address of January 20th 1961 is not a treatise on how he John Kennedy will serve the American people, mindful of other nations, but it’s a statement of globalisation, headed by him. His ‘liberty’ is a cipher for the brand he pedalled – a system run by corporations that they package as ‘democracy’.
I didn’t like his ‘ask not what this country will do for you but ask what you can do for your country’ which makes responsibility not his and ‘his’ government’s, but pings it back onto the people. We might question – which he did not – the notion of nation and government, under which most of us are forced to live and to pay on pain of punishment. His 1347 words, crafted by himself and his speech writer Ted Sorensen, oft address other countries, and try to create America the police and leaders of world, and make all nations promise to him; like a global christening ceremony, all are godparents whether they chose and are willing to be. Like Old Testament Joseph, he dreams that all sheaves bow to his central gathered corn.
Compare this oration with Elizabeth’s address to the troops at Tilbury before the Armada. I first found Kennedy’s speech in the same book.
From there, I became angrier at the Kennedys and went on a snaking journey towards a very different treatment today, far from my original reason to choose him, which I’ll explain in part 2.
What brought back my hope and interest was one of Jack Kennedy’s last speeches, that of June 10th* in his final year. In two years, he had changed from haughty hawk to diplomatic dove. (Today’s sermon is the same length as that speech)
I’m going to lead you into a pause to and then I’ll give a second part of my address. I’m going to play you some solfeggio music which makes me think of walking into destiny, as we thought of with Elizabeth I last week. It’s very cosmic sounding and I want us to think what Jack Kennedy’s cosmic role might have been…and on our own.
Music from solfeggiotones.com Body Healing Tones 1565hz
Part II
As I’ve stated before, I’m very interested in how things are presented in the mainstream – my research degree focussed on this regarding the Tudors. Hence I turned my lens onto those pointed at JFK and his family. There are many books – yes even a British bookshop will probably carry a tome on the Kennedys – and films and documentaries are plentiful and easily found.
The depictions of JFK are especially important as they can lead on how Americans see themselves, and outsiders see America; the credibility of the media, law and enforcement, and those secret ‘services’…and the notion of nationhood and government. I watched many: I comment here on a selection.
I wasn’t sure what kind of account I’d get in the 1991 Oliver Stone movie JFK. At a swaggering 3½ hours, I was quickly disillusioned that it wasn’t going to feature Jack Kennedy…in fact no-one close to Kennedy is anything but a distant grainy face in a newsreel. The chief actors played the New Orleans District Attorney Garrison and his team, and suspects. So much about JFK seems to focus on his death and its apparent mystery but I wanted to know about his life and what he might have done that made him a threat and target. I was already sure in general terms of who.
The movie JFK does say that late on that people ask – including the film’s current audience – who and how but not why. And it’s the why that matters.
I was impressed by Oliver Stone’s bravery and that of all the cast and crew, and that a mainstream Hollywood studio – Warner Brothers – made this well known film. For it clearly calls out that official 3 bullet lone gunman theory, and posits that the establishment themselves – the White House, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the system of law and order – all conspired to kill a serving president in a coup d’etat.
Oliver Stone has made several brave films (such as Snowden), and his commentary of JFK makes clear his deep research and commitment to this subject, which he twice returned to. He also personally interviewed Fidel Castro, who is essential for us to understand the other point of view and decisions facing Kennedy. (These are available as documentaries).
Ten years later, Kevin Costner again took a leading role in a film about JFK. Thirteen Days is about the Cuban Missile Crisis, which despite being Top Gun meets West Wing, did bring some nuance and complexity. I note its year: 2001, that of the Twin Towers. I also note that period was the run up to a new round of war, terrorism-seeking and a common enemy: now not communism, but Islam. The premise of weapons of mass destruction again underpinned military action in a watershed moment. America is shown – whether intentionally or not – to be an arrogant aggressor, demanding another sovereign nation to submit to it. I noted that whereas the USSR was demanded to remove its missiles from Cuba, it was unthinkable for the USA to remove theirs from Turkey (they were 6 months later). The film ceded that the peace found with Russia was “a victory for them as much as us.”
A documentary on Amazon Prime “JFK X – solving the crime of the century” (2023) says that was a staged death (with film special effect squibs to explode blood) and that he retired from public view. It was unclear as to why – to avoid the hand of the mob, or to be with a lover? It tried to undercut Oliver Stone’s film, but the years later commentary convinced me that the idea that Stone had realised this truth but felt he had to go ahead with his script had no basis.
A perspective on Marilyn (Mary – lin) Monroe, especially that offered in “The Mystery of Marilyn Munroe: the unheard tapes” (2022) shows both best known brothers to be serial adulterers and women users. I do not doubt that JFK had an affair with Marilyn, and it was clearly stated and offered proof that RFK did too – simultaneously. I no longer see the playboy epithet as unjust or even opinion – it is fact. I also see that Marilyn’s death was connected to the Kennedys: if they didn’t kill her, they lied about events to stop their duel relationship with her becoming public. The FBI was despatched to her deathbed suspiciously quickly and evidence disposed of.
I’m angry and shocked by the film Blonde (2022), which purports to be fiction but is based on real people. I found its intense unrelenting misery, missing Marilyn’s achievements, both unwatchable and unrepresentative. The scenes around ‘The President’ caused another writer to dub JFK a ‘monster’. But no evidence by the filmmaker or author of the book he adapted was offered to justify this. The gruelling marathon of surreal imagery could have worked in two negative ways: to denigrate the memory of Jack Kennedy, and remove suspicion in Marilyn’s death. Her alleged communism and knowledge of missile tests were removed. (Note what I quoted about her earthly role in my Diana service).
As I researched, I heard of ‘dirty’ campaigns and that money allowed pushy promotions and cheesy but popular jingles to push Jack to the American throne. I tired of being told that Jack was goodlooking – not in my view – he embodied all I associate and dislike regarding America.
I wasn’t sure if JFK and his family weren’t killed by the mob and the Illuminati or part of it; was the string of deaths a series of honour killings?
It did occur that Jack Kennedy was a Saul and Khal Drogo kind of leader. In the Old Testament, Israel asked for a king to be like other nations. God gave them one of worldly standard – tall and athletic and handsome. It’s generally considered that this leader was not a success.
Kahl Drogo of Game of Thrones, played in the TV series by Jason Mamoa, is a Saul-like leader, and in some ways, Kennedy-like. No, not in being 6’5 and well built – Jack was skinny and suffered secretly from Addison’s disease, giving him in pain and physical struggle. Like Khal, he seemed to fear letting his people know about physical weakness. JFK was different from leaders of yore who went into battle with their troops, not being the person with the best escape and protection. In Biblical times, and Tudor times, one faced your battle foe corporally – in Kennedy’s time as now, warfare is possible from a distance, on a screen, not experiencing the horror of those you strike. But Kennedy is popular because he was handsome, rich and charming with a nice wife, I’m repeatedly told. He could rally people, but that is not the same as delivering to them.
It was pointed out – and I’d seen it myself – that Kennedy is accused of many of the things that Trump is: sexual abuse, being rich; their speeches had some similarities – an arrogant belief in their country and their own place in it. During his presidential campaigns in 1960, Kennedy said that you are voting for the most important individual in the free world, ie. him. What is this freedom? Trump is a divisive figure – a broad range of people hate him, but Kennedy comes to us as a popular and good leader whose speeches are listed in special categories. Is that fair?
(Of course those opinions are also reversed).
I do see – or hoped to – a more positive link, as those who stand up to the establishment they were meant to head.
Whatever Jack Kennedy was and even became, I see his leadership style as OLD style – competition and hierarchy (being president and winning the space race), about greatness due to military power and material wealth. It’s about wheeling deals and managing how you’re seen and what is known. It’s a perpetual precarious game of cards.
I think the time is here for new leaders and a new political world.
I had seen that Jack Kennedy’s work was on a greater spiritual level, aided by the fact that channellings in his name have been published, and that these began during the coronavirus period, which was significant, encouraging readers in the ongoing fight against good and evil. Whether or not one accepts these channels by Losha as from Jack, it is interesting that this person was used during these trials. Kennedy explicitly likened and linked his mission with that of Diana.
I want to almost round off with mention of the Kennedy reign being called Camelot. I’d like to direct you to my thoughts on the film First Knight. Yes, Jackie and Jack were a golden couple, like Arthur and Guinevere, ruling over a mythical leading kingdom in fairness, enjoying the love of his people. But William Nicholson’s Arthur is called a tyrant. He’s flawed. I spoke of how the Disney style castle of the film may be a deliberate nod to the American dream, and how the values and ideals – and being built on an ideal – are true of both Authurian kingdom (as penned by Nicholson) and the administration of Kennedy, or let’s be honest: kingdom.
Lastly, I bring back that security memo and Executive Order. It’s speculated that along with the University speech of June ‘63, that these are what got Kennedy killed. The order stated that American money would be henceforth backed with silver and thus move away from the Federal Reserve. The NSAM stated that 1000 troops would be withdrawn from Vietnam, but it also clearly said that the new government there would be monitored and encouraged to develop along approved lines. I’m not sure if that university speech in Washington did call for total nuclear disarmament as some state, or if JFK did vow to ‘splinter’ and wind down the CIA (but he did plan to continue covert ops, according to the document I saw)…but here is what I do take from Jack Kennedy:
that we want him to have, and this is what impresses those who like him. We want an end to imperialist wars, of elites controlling our finances. We want people who negotiate for peace rather than bomb and shoot their demands. We want a flaming torch – like that on Kennedy’s grave – to be passed along the decades and across the lands that fights evil and brings in a new better world. Kennedy ceded that it wouldn’t be complete in his lifetime, but I would like to think that 60 years on, it is possible in ours…and not be forever passing the torch into a distant future. Nor do I think that torch is for conventionally recognised leaders alone. There have been dramatic shifts in recent decades, and indeed, very recent years. The time is coming and is now here when the world of Kennedy’s 6/6* speech is not swallowed by 666 but is coming into being. *(The University speech is dated 6th June but was delivered on 10th).
Our next meeting is on Christmas eve (8pm), with a medieval musical theme
Elspeth at betweenthestools@hotmail.co.uk